Comments on: Apprenticeship or Degree: What’s Best for the Industry? http://alexandragraham.com/2008/04/apprenticeship-or-degree/ Discussions and thoughts from a life spent building the web Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:41:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: The next generation of web professionals | Bloggy Hell http://alexandragraham.com/2008/04/apprenticeship-or-degree/#comment-12 The next generation of web professionals | Bloggy Hell Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:12:00 +0000 http://alexandragraham.com/?p=14#comment-12 [...] and it isn’t an easy question to answer - and it seems that I’m not the only one - both Alex and Gary have recently blogged about apprenticeships, graduate programmes and [...] [...] and it isn’t an easy question to answer - and it seems that I’m not the only one - both Alex and Gary have recently blogged about apprenticeships, graduate programmes and [...]

]]> By: Man with no blog » Internship, Graduate or Apprenticeship http://alexandragraham.com/2008/04/apprenticeship-or-degree/#comment-11 Man with no blog » Internship, Graduate or Apprenticeship Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:35:29 +0000 http://alexandragraham.com/?p=14#comment-11 [...] thinking about the best fit for career directions in the web industry. Seems I’m not alone, Alex Graham also has the same [...] [...] thinking about the best fit for career directions in the web industry. Seems I’m not alone, Alex Graham also has the same [...]

]]> By: Alex G http://alexandragraham.com/2008/04/apprenticeship-or-degree/#comment-10 Alex G Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:03:48 +0000 http://alexandragraham.com/?p=14#comment-10 Very good points Gary. The point of the post was more the highlight an industry-wide solution so that we are no longer presented with this issue when looking to expand rather than and individual solution for myself. Should the web industry be encouraging the development of hands-on education as opposed to academic study for those wanting to get into web design and development? Very good points Gary.

The point of the post was more the highlight an industry-wide solution so that we are no longer presented with this issue when looking to expand rather than and individual solution for myself.

Should the web industry be encouraging the development of hands-on education as opposed to academic study for those wanting to get into web design and development?

]]> By: Gary Barber http://alexandragraham.com/2008/04/apprenticeship-or-degree/#comment-9 Gary Barber Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:14:13 +0000 http://alexandragraham.com/?p=14#comment-9 I'm like you when I started back in 1995, there wasn't even many books, and courses where, well unknown. I have been down this road and frankly the time and effort that is required for bringing a graduate up to speed is extreme at best. Sometimes to the point that it can be very damaging for a small business trying to expand and train a uni graduate. This is where I think a 2nd year TAFE student that has the basics would be a lot better off. If you can get a current TAFE student to go part time, and you do it like a apprenticeship. You get the best of both worlds. You get a part time employee (taking up the slack). You know they are studying, and you get to train them on the job too. Main problem with all this is the time you take to train the new employee s going to be dead time for about 6 months till they get up to speed. This can be terminal for business if it's not handled right. You also have the issue of management time that will cut into your day as well. You maybe better off teaming with someone with a full skill set and experience that can hit the ground running and that way no cost to you in supervision and training. Okay you pay a little more, but you get an instant employee / business partner. I suppose my views highlights the problem, and why the web industry is preferring people with experience over those that are just graduating (Tafe or Uni). I’m like you when I started back in 1995, there wasn’t even many books, and courses where, well unknown. I have been down this road and frankly the time and effort that is required for bringing a graduate up to speed is extreme at best.

Sometimes to the point that it can be very damaging for a small business trying to expand and train a uni graduate.

This is where I think a 2nd year TAFE student that has the basics would be a lot better off. If you can get a current TAFE student to go part time, and you do it like a apprenticeship. You get the best of both worlds. You get a part time employee (taking up the slack). You know they are studying, and you get to train them on the job too.

Main problem with all this is the time you take to train the new employee s going to be dead time for about 6 months till they get up to speed. This can be terminal for business if it’s not handled right. You also have the issue of management time that will cut into your day as well.

You maybe better off teaming with someone with a full skill set and experience that can hit the ground running and that way no cost to you in supervision and training. Okay you pay a little more, but you get an instant employee / business partner.

I suppose my views highlights the problem, and why the web industry is preferring people with experience over those that are just graduating (Tafe or Uni).

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